Thursday, April 05, 2012

Secularism as a Political Ideology

Secularism is an ideology.

I wish to begin my defense of secularism - which I will continue through several posts - with this because I have heard many people describe secularism as something that transcends ideology - as something that sits over the top of all ideologies and gives us instructions on their use in political debate.

This conception holds that secularism is all about having different people with different ideologies come together at the political table, setting their ideologies aside, and making decisions for the good of the community independent of ideology.

The first thing I am going to say about this is that it is not secularism.

It is not even coherent.

Much of its incoherence can be brought out through this question: If we are going to set all ideologies aside, then do we also set aside the ideology that says to set aside all ideologies?

It does not matter how we answer this question, we enter into problems.

If we answer "No. People who come to the political table must not set aside this ideology," we must ask why this ideology is permitted at the table while all others are prohibited. What makes it special?

If we answer, "Yes. People who come to the political table must set aside all ideology including this one," then we have left behind our foundation for saying that all (other) ideologies must be left behind. We also do not have anything we can use to make any political decisions.

This is the same incoherence we find in the claim that we must not indoctrinate our children - that we must leave them free to make up their own minds. When I hear this, My next question is, "Is it wrong to indoctrinate children into the belief that indoctrination is wrong?"

If children are free to grow up to be parents who hold that it is free to indoctrinate their children, then on what basis do we condemn the practice? If, on the other hand, we hold that all children must be indoctrinated into the practice of no indoctrination, we have an incoherent and self-contradictory rule. Consider the proposal, "We are not going to indoctrinate a child into any language. Instead, we are going to make sure that a child's mind remains uncontaminated by any language, so that the child can choose his or her language rather than having a language foisted upon the child."

I suspect I do not need to go into a long explanation as to why this proposal is simply nonsense.

Or, what amounts to a very similar proposal that is very close to the issue of indoctrination, "We are not going to provide a child with any beliefs. Providing beliefs to a child violates the child's autonomy. Instead, we are going to make sure that the child grows up without any beliefs, leaving the child free to choose his or her beliefs when that child is ready to do so."

Really? Explain to me how that is going to work.

The claim that we are not going to indoctrinate children is ultimately a claim that we are not going to provide them with an initial set of beliefs against which they will evaluate all future beliefs. That is simply not an option. It is just like the option that we are not going to indoctrinate children into a language but allow them to choose their own. How are they going to choose?

Like it or not, we are going to have to answer the question of which initial beliefs (or language) we are going to give to a child - and "none" is not a possible answer. Similarly, we are going to have to ask, "What ideologies may people bring to the political table?" "None" is not a possible answer.

This is a fact - like it or not.

So, I am not going to defend the idea that secularism demands bringing no ideology to the political table - I find that option absurd. Secularism itself is an ideology - and it is the correct one to bring to the political table. All competing ideologies are flawed in some way - though I hasten to add that it is NOT the case that all other ideologies are competing. There are a lot of ideologies compatible with secularism and can easily fit beside it.

3 comments:

Emu Sam said...

I find your arguments convincing, yet I suspect I still misunderstand secularism. Is it the ideology that political decisions should be religiously neutral? That is, a decision-maker can be guided by their religion, but it should be reasonably possible for those guided by other religions to think their own religion is not adversely affected.

I am not sure how this works with some of the more extreme religions. For example, a law against murder interferes with the practise of some religions.

Prioritization probably comes into play there. We all have the right to our religions where it does not interfere with other rights to which we give priority.

And yet I think I've skipped some steps which might be important to the reasoning process.

Drake Shelton said...

Alonzo,

Protestant Christian Theocrat back again,

"This is the same incoherence we find in the claim that we must not indoctrinate our children - that we must leave them free to make up their own minds."

>>>I think you are hitting on social contract theory. If it is the case that "we must not indoctrinate our children" then on what basis do you obligate them to your present government?

"So,I am not going to defend the idea that secularism demands bringing no ideology to the political table - I find that option absurd. Secularism itself is an ideology"

>>>Which is a point I have tried to show many atheists to no avail. Are you then admitting that atheism requires an epistemology? I have read from mnay atheists that the very definition of their position is that there is no emperical evidence for a god or gods. If that is the case the requirement for evidence obligates them or even you to the position that there are material objects of knowledge. Do you admit it? I know many atheists who say that their so called humility, their doubt is what keeps them in their atheism or that their atheism is completely compatible with a universal doubt. I would think you would have to repudiate them and I would commend you in your honesty for doing so.

Brian Locke said...

Alonzo, no Atheist would even entertain your foolishness. We don't "keep" to our atheism as you say, because our humility or compatible universal doubt. We are Atheist because me don't believe in make believe. We grew up. You believe in a god still? really? Then it's on you to provide proof. Not the other way around.