tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post5821221889896442840..comments2023-10-24T04:29:23.693-06:00Comments on Atheist Ethicist: A Defense by Example of Uncompromising SecularismAlonzo Fyfehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05687777216426347054noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-36043614282151907862012-04-16T16:26:07.113-06:002012-04-16T16:26:07.113-06:00Drake Shelton:
"The English Bill of Rights w...Drake Shelton:<br /><br />"The English Bill of Rights was the product of the Protestant Glorious Revolution. It was not secularism sir."<br /><br />As Alonzo wrote, some of the arguments against sectarian testimony can be appreciated by religious people as well as atheists. I expect that the majority of people in favor of secular courts, during the Protestant Reformation or now, were and are religious.<br /><br />Just because the people who instituted secular courts were religious, does not mean the courts are not secular. This is the genetic fallacy.Jesse Reevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-90900911764848998012012-04-13T19:30:54.034-06:002012-04-13T19:30:54.034-06:00"If somebody tells you that they are anti-sec..."If somebody tells you that they are anti-secular - that secularism is a bad thing - ask them how they feel about the current system of trial by jury."<br /><br />>Sir, this came out of the Calvinst Protestant Reformation-a religious movement. We were being tried, tortured and found guilty in secret dungeons and underground torture chambers by the Roman Inquisition. The English Bill of Rights was the product of the Protestant Glorious Revolution. It was not secularism sir.<br /><br /><br />"CSI Investigator: "It must have been an act of God. He is testing us - testing our faith - trying to see if we have the courage to hold to our convictions. I am a person of faith - and I have faith that the accused is guilty. That's all that matters."<br /><br />>Can you show me a case of such an appeal in say the Mosaic Law?Drake Sheltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05925446446813424725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-62700493393814045212012-04-11T07:57:50.239-06:002012-04-11T07:57:50.239-06:00Great post, Alonzo! This is the first time I have ...Great post, Alonzo! This is the first time I have heard this argument and I wonder how it has been missed by so many, including myself.anton kozlikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15615649262704016807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-50236998957635765822012-04-10T11:47:24.575-06:002012-04-10T11:47:24.575-06:00Seems like the real problem with sectarian testimo...Seems like the real problem with sectarian testimony is its lack of transparency. Even if it was true that God revealed something to me that was in fact true, my testimony base on that exchange can not be distinguished from a testimony that I simply made up and delivered with great sincerity.Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138403518686972179noreply@blogger.com