tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post115609064122453289..comments2023-10-24T04:29:23.693-06:00Comments on Atheist Ethicist: The Republican National Committee vs. Representative MurthaAlonzo Fyfehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05687777216426347054noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-1156218775683766412006-08-21T21:52:00.000-06:002006-08-21T21:52:00.000-06:00The factcheck.org article I cited explains the pro...The factcheck.org article I cited explains the problem.<BR/><BR/><I>Incidentally, Murtha was not entirely accurate. He was citing survey results released June 13 by the Pew Global Attitudes Project. They show that France, Britain and Spain do indeed see the US presence in Iraq as a greater danger to peace that North Korea or Iran, but not Germany or Japan.<BR/><BR/>Just as Murtha said, in Spain 56 per cent of those polled rated the US in Iraq as a "great danger" to world peace, compared to 38 per cent who rated Iran that way, and 21 per cent who saw North Korea as a great danger. In France and Britain as well, more saw the US in Iraq as a great danger than the other two. But contrary to Murtha's remarks, in Germany 51 per cent rated Iran a "great danger," more than the 40 per cent who said that of the US in Iraq, or the 23 per cent who said it of North Korea. And in Japan, 46 per cent saw nearby North Korea as a "great danger," more than the 29 per cent who rated the US in Iraq that way. Worth noting is that even in the US a large number see the US presence in Iraq as a threat to world peace. The Pew results show 31 per cent of Americans think US actions in Iraq are a great danger, not far behind the 34 per cent who think that of North Korea, but less than the 46 per cent who think it of Iran.</I><BR/><BR/>Not only is this statement "not accurate", but Murtha obvoiusly had access to this information and could have cited it correctly -- just as the RNC could have cited Murtha's statement correctly.Alonzo Fyfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05687777216426347054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-1156210360232108512006-08-21T19:32:00.000-06:002006-08-21T19:32:00.000-06:00Hello Alonzo,I am a little bit confused as to prec...Hello Alonzo,<BR/>I am a little bit confused as to precisely where Murtha lied. Could it have been a lack of clarity when he says:<BR/><BR/>"Every one of our allies think that the United States being in Iraq is more dangerous to world stability and world peace, every one of our allies, Great Britain,"<BR/><BR/>Those sentences were preceded by reference to public opinion in Spain (however only %56 with probably a +or- %6 error). Could he have meant public opinion in the countries that comprise "every one of our allies"? <BR/><BR/>I agree that as worded the statement suggests that "our allies" is equivalent to those countries' governments. Because of Great Britian's involvment and support in Iraq is so obviously contrary to Murtha's claim it suggests to me that he meant the British public.<BR/><BR/>Whether a majority of the British public think what he said I do not know.<BR/>Anyway, thanks for a steady stream of thought provoking material.Sheldonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03743116454273042629noreply@blogger.com