tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post8990840353820153508..comments2023-10-24T04:29:23.693-06:00Comments on Atheist Ethicist: Marketing TruthAlonzo Fyfehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05687777216426347054noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-86328305122411823162011-09-16T00:34:53.769-06:002011-09-16T00:34:53.769-06:00i think the problem with professional marketing of...i think the problem with professional marketing of the truth is that professional markters teach people to give professional grade lies.<br /><br />the best advice that a proffsional marketing firm can give you is to go with things that work and the things that work best are appeals to emotion through lies<br /><br />to promote truth by hiring perfessional liars is probably not the best idea...Kristopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08544209777124068097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-35825146940208831762008-10-10T18:12:00.000-06:002008-10-10T18:12:00.000-06:00Your proposal sounds a lot like the Center for Inq...Your proposal sounds a lot like the <A HREF="http://centerforinquiry.net" REL="nofollow">Center for Inquiry</A>, at least as far as their slogan goes. Of course, I don't know how much effort they've put into having professionals market them to the general public (and the slogan lacks the specific word "truth" I suppose).Dan Doelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16761291400347369301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-36232703681783808652008-10-10T08:39:00.000-06:002008-10-10T08:39:00.000-06:00AnnaWell, I see nothing wrong with fellowship - a ...<B>Anna</B><BR/><BR/>Well, I see nothing wrong with fellowship - a community built on mutual trust and respect is certainly a better community than one built on animosity and contempt.<BR/><BR/>As for a "shared set of values" - this depends on the values. The values of honesty (or truth in general) and intellectual curiousity are certainly values that I argue should be shared. If, on the other hand, those "shared values" are hatred for homosexuals, subjugation of women, and contempt for reason, then the community of shared values might not be such a good thing.<BR/><BR/>Of course, we should promote institutions that tend to fulfill the desires of others. Institutions that help those in need, accurately distinguish between the guilty and innocent in order to punish the guilty and leave the innocent alone, and promote general education (knowledge and understanding of the real world) is a community in which its members would be better off. Particularly when compared to a community built on injustice (by divine command or some other source), ignorance, and a lack of concern for others.<BR/><BR/>We have many and good reasons to become members of such a community.<BR/><BR/>Of course, I would not call it 'religious' precisely because we are evaluating institutions by their real-world application and not making false claims about supernatural entities, promoting hatred for archaic reasons written into 2000 year old books, and denigrating the intellectual faculties or conclusions drawn from evidence.Alonzo Fyfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05687777216426347054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-90577806480630097712008-10-10T08:08:00.000-06:002008-10-10T08:08:00.000-06:00You just described the founding of a religious str...You just described the founding of a religious structure of sorts. To the extent that it encourages fellowship, a shared set of values and beliefs, and the ability to raise funds and engage in community organization and social justice through education, empowerment and advocacy, I think that I'd like to be a member.<BR/><BR/>I've been mulling over essentially the same needs - community, fellowship and resource acquisition and disbursement around promoting reason, science and classic virtues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-27673254447181055512008-10-10T05:58:00.000-06:002008-10-10T05:58:00.000-06:00"For Fox News, stories are not driven by ideology...."For Fox News, stories are not driven by ideology. They are driven by popularity, so that, if the popularity of certain ideas change, Fox News will seek to preserve its high ratings by pursuing the new trend."<BR/><BR/>I have to say your view is very charitable of Fox News. What you say is probably more true of MSNBC, who once had a evening line up of Joe Scarborough and Tucker Carlson, conservatives, and now have a line-up of Olberman and Maddow. And they fire Phil Donahue in the lead up to the war.<BR/><BR/>Fox News on the other hand is more committed to a right-wing ideology and is less likely to sway with the changing winds. I would call it niche marketing.Sheldonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03743116454273042629noreply@blogger.com