tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post2574019378054582130..comments2023-10-24T04:29:23.693-06:00Comments on Atheist Ethicist: Discussion: Faith as a ViceAlonzo Fyfehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05687777216426347054noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-2492883870619734152007-05-12T18:55:00.000-06:002007-05-12T18:55:00.000-06:00Love and Hate inspires people to remain in these P...Love and Hate inspires people to remain in these Person-Identity cults. <BR/><BR/>Funny you mention that, I spent way too long on one of PZ's threads today. The argument here is of a much higher order and the lack of a personality cult refreshing. <BR/><BR/>This is the piece I mentioned this morning. <BR/><BR/>http://echidneofthesnakes.blogspot.com/2007_01_01_archive.html#116989788686299405olvlzlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15329638018157415801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-67718255180565382542007-05-12T18:17:00.000-06:002007-05-12T18:17:00.000-06:00So what do they care about? Faith, defined in Lett...<B>So what do they care about? Faith, defined in Letter to the Hebrews as ‘…the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.’</B><BR/><BR/>No. People care about finding their way to an Easy Life. Monkey see, monkey want to copy.<BR/>Religion, fashion, sexual identity are all inspired by a single human being whom, they say, made it. <BR/>Jesus, for inspiring earthly joy and the removal of Everlasting Damnation; Mohammed for inspiring earthly damnation for Everlasting Joy; and the Violator who forces unpleasantness that becomes an acquired addiction.<BR/><BR/>Love and Hate inspires people to remain in these Person-Identity cults. They are all the most incorrigible gossips. The modus operandi they all use in the beginning is: fear. Practiced on a child near you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-20707423311309742812007-05-12T04:04:00.000-06:002007-05-12T04:04:00.000-06:00You know, Alonzo, I wrote a very long piece about ...You know, Alonzo, I wrote a very long piece about the fact that there isn't a single person in the world who doesn't actively practice faith, using unproven ideas and building on them. The behavioral sciences, the one that Dawkins used to be a part of and the one that Harris asks us to really, really believe he's going to publish in one day, are built with bricks of faith and authority. If it's the act of doing that is a dangerous moral failing then I guess we're all dangerous. <BR/><BR/>I'm too busy to play today, but this is really my idea of fun.olvlzlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15329638018157415801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-79988765041849431772007-05-12T03:45:00.000-06:002007-05-12T03:45:00.000-06:00Sheesh, when I first read that "get over it" part,...Sheesh, when I first read that "get over it" part, I thought Konner was addressing it to the hypothetical person of faith, to get over their faith. Once I grasped that he was addressing Harris himself, to get over his dislike of others' faith, well, that's all different, then.Randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16862162157713428951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-60897506588573904372007-05-12T02:28:00.000-06:002007-05-12T02:28:00.000-06:00A person who believes that a God exists, that he w...<B>A person who believes that a God exists, that he will survive death, and that God will allow him into heaven if he is good to others, and who is not reckless about what constitutes good for others, is not somebody we need to worry about. Yes, he is a reckless thinker, but he is reckless only in the privacy of his own life.</B><BR/><BR/>That person has not thought-for-themselves about life because someone, usually in their childhood has thought-about-life for them.<BR/> It is very easy to convince a child about fairies at the bottom of the garden. Even more to tell her those fairies have a predisposed and predetermined lifestyle. Therfore it is not reasonable to confer that this child, or the adult person, to have reckless thinking.<BR/><BR/>It is the training the child into critical thinking, that noble purpose of education - to draw out from within, whilst Socialist Britain has become indoctrination to push education into children. Psychotic behaviour of others is termed normal and the leading her and others to critical thinking is taboo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com