tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post114088419403758701..comments2023-10-24T04:29:23.693-06:00Comments on Atheist Ethicist: GamblingAlonzo Fyfehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05687777216426347054noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-13043852642473569322012-12-25T19:19:11.459-07:002012-12-25T19:19:11.459-07:00My observation is that the 95% may be statisticall...My observation is that the 95% may be statistically correct and is much used by the gambling industry as proof of their lack of evil but actual behaviour is most people will just keep betting until 100% of their stake is gone . The idea that the average punter is coming out with 95% of what they go in with is nonsense. StFualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05983645082014338648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-58493312256149638222011-06-15T11:29:18.240-06:002011-06-15T11:29:18.240-06:00Gambliing is just another way of distract our selv...Gambliing is just another way of distract our selves from daily stress, wa have to take it as another way of entertainment that costs money, I think that excesses are not good at all regardless if you are gambling or just doing something else....is a matter of controlling our selvesgeneric viagrahttp://www.vx-pharmacy.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-38434599431422442072010-04-12T18:06:10.305-06:002010-04-12T18:06:10.305-06:00No one mentions: the drowning of ones sorrows, it ...No one mentions: the drowning of ones sorrows, it is not the money, but the loss of reality. It a pathetic fix to deep set emotional issues that can be covered up by an up moment when more is won than lost. Gamblers are not looking to get rich. Anyone who is addicted will tell you if they actually won a million dollars they would turn around and put it all back, thus why it is an addiction, they cannot stopAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-12305334986028512602010-02-19T07:08:53.022-07:002010-02-19T07:08:53.022-07:00I can't see what's entertaining about gamb...I can't see what's entertaining about gambling if it isn't about the possiblity of winning money. Would you sit in front of a roulette table like a monkey just for the joy of watching the ball land on a number with no money involved? No? But you would if you knew you would lose? I can see why this would be entertaining... for the house! <br /><br />As for the legality of gambling, how can the government can grant a group a license to steal? Does it have the right? And by the way, it's an egregious form of theft. The only people who get $95 back on $100 gambled are those who play perfectly. The less informed and self controlled do much worse. If society has no responsibilty to protect its citizens from predation like this, neither does it have a right to raise an army.Karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07988758199724615381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-37881320605550905232007-12-23T21:24:00.000-07:002007-12-23T21:24:00.000-07:00If you look at gambling as anything more than ente...If you look at <A HREF="http://www.gambling.ph" REL="nofollow">gambling</A> as anything more than entertainment, then it is foolish. Don't gamble to anticipate making money, only gamble if you like to play the games.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-1146241904561277562006-04-28T10:31:00.000-06:002006-04-28T10:31:00.000-06:00Almost every time I'm offered a lottery ticket at ...Almost every time I'm offered a lottery ticket at a gas station I remind the clerk that the lottery is a tax on people who can't do math. This normally leaves them with an expression much like a dog who's just been shown a card trick, but what the hell. I've always been of the "single candle" mode of thought, if my comment makes one person think a bit more clearly, I've helped.<BR/><BR/>Yes, people who gamble irresponsibly are squandering their cash. It's their right to spend their money as they see fit however, so prohibition of gambling is inherently wrong.<BR/><BR/>If we're to legislate financial responsibility, why don't we also close pawn shops, payday loan joints, rent-to-own stores, and other predators that help the poor get poorer? At least with gambling, there's a slight entertainment value...<BR/><BR/>Like any other bad idea, it can be overcome by education and information. What are the odds of those concepts becoming popular though? lolLupis Noctumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09014291616299514656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-1141491982439684342006-03-04T10:06:00.000-07:002006-03-04T10:06:00.000-07:00When a person "enjoys the game", what is it that t...When a person "enjoys the game", what is it that they enjoy? Are they dreaming about what they will do with the money that they win?<BR/><BR/>In Las Vegas, I heard a lot of people celebrating their victories in the hundreds of dollars. I made about $2,800 while I was in Las Vegas. When I got back, I checked my investments, and this was how much they went up.<BR/><BR/>One of the core components that I argue for in desire utilitarianism is to enjoy things that also produce good results.<BR/><BR/>I enjoy investing money. I get entertainment value looking over the numbers, evaluating options, and making my choices -- probably the same type of enjoyment that a gambler gets trying to decide whether to split a pair. Yet, it is still the case that my bets have an average annual payoff of 110% of the money that I put on the table, while gambling has an average annual payoff of 95% of the money he puts on the table.<BR/><BR/>To the degree that one can choose what one finds entertaining (and we do have the capacity to make such choices), which type of "fun" does it make more sense to encourage, and which type of "fun" does it make sense to discourage?<BR/><BR/>Desire utilitarianism says that if people can be entertained either by investing or by gambling, that it is better to promote the joy of investing.Alonzo Fyfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05687777216426347054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-1141351722956232362006-03-02T19:08:00.000-07:002006-03-02T19:08:00.000-07:00It's not so hard to win. Unless you are stupidIt's not so hard to win. Unless you are stupidDogcrap Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08787720028392236244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-1141068534942285182006-02-27T12:28:00.000-07:002006-02-27T12:28:00.000-07:00Indeed. No prohibitions. There will always be peop...Indeed. No prohibitions. There will always be people who are willing to pay 5$ or more for a few hours of what they perceive as fun, and they should have that right.<BR/><BR/>I do not gamble and I do not drink alcohol, as the cost of both pleasures is too high for me when compared to the pleasure these activities provide me with.<BR/><BR/>People should be informed and educated about the cost/benefit ratio of all "victimless crimes", and then left to decide for themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-1141060710271208052006-02-27T10:18:00.000-07:002006-02-27T10:18:00.000-07:00Completely agree. Casinos should be taken as any o...Completely agree. <BR/><BR/>Casinos should be taken as any other entertainment business. You go in with the knowledge that you will pay 100$, get 95$ in cash and 5$ worth of euphoria. A fair deal. <BR/><BR/>But betting for profit is "a tax on stupidity".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-1140922874784204242006-02-25T20:01:00.000-07:002006-02-25T20:01:00.000-07:00I guess the difference is if you enjoy the game or...I guess the difference is if you enjoy the game or not.<BR/><BR/>Last time I went to a casino, I went with the <B>expectation</B> that all the cash I had in my hand would be gone by the time I left. If the games were fun, I'd play. If not, I'd spend my money somewhere else.<BR/><BR/>To be, it wasn't gambling, but paying money to be entertained.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, to a certain extent, I do agree with you. I'd probably prefer it if you paid an entrance fee and were given matchsticks to gamble with. No pretence that anyone is going to leave rich.Bill P. Godfreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15666992178755985254noreply@blogger.com